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Pasqual Allen's avatar

I love what you’re doing with this publication Molly. Podcasts like this are awesome. What an interview.

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Luke Ringlein's avatar

I love Hadrian’s approach to recruiting. Upskilling workers from outside manufacturing flips the script on the “skills gap” narrative. It’s not just automation that scales; it’s trust in people plus systems. That’s the overlooked moat.

Also worth calling out: Chris frames vertical integration not just as efficiency, but as survival. Building software and factory ops together isn’t a nice-to-have, it’s what makes the model work at all. Most failed attempts in this space bolted software onto legacy shops. Hadrian started clean.

A question I keep coming back to: As deep tech startups like Hadrian scale, what mechanisms (besides capital) can help investors and policymakers stay aligned with the realities of physical production?

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